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[Lupe Esquibel]

THE SPANISH HAVE LIVED IN THE AMERICAS OVER 500 YEARS AND THE
OTHER WHTS 200 YEARS. el pintada kid


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EL PINTADA KID ..... LUPE

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Post by Lupe Esquibel
THE SPANISH HAVE LIVED IN THE AMERICAS OVER 500 YEARS AND THE
OTHER WHTS 200 YEARS. el pintada kid

Why are you a racist puta?

[Lupe Esquibel]

You wipees cant argue with History but Denial will always be a river
in Egypt. el pintada kid


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Post by Lupe Esquibel
You wipees cant argue with History but

History?

No, why would we?

http://www.pbs.org/pov/lastconquistador/film_description.php

So when the El Paso City Council commissioned a larger-than-life statue
of the Spanish conquistador Juan de Oñate, Houser conceived his grandest
project yet: the largest bronze equestrian statue in the world. He
envisioned a magnificent and long-overdue tribute to the contributions
of Hispanic culture and history to the United States.

But as recounted in the new documentary The Last Conquistador, all was
not well as the statue's dedication approached. The area's Native
Americans had their own very personal memories concerning Oñate. They
recalled massacres, slavery and terror. They remembered that Oñate's
foray into New Mexico in 1598 led to the deaths of two out of every
three Indians there and nearly caused the extermination of Native
culture across the region.

As the film shows, the prospect that a murderer's image would be looming
over El Paso, Texas, drew increasing anger and protest. One artist
proposed a companion sculpture of a giant severed foot, commemorating
Oñate's method of cutting off feet to terrorize the native inhabitants.
Houser saw his grand conception transformed in a way he had not
intended, caught up in a whirlwind of unresolved conflicts between
races, classes and historical memories.

Neither Houser nor El Paso's city councilors had intended any offense or
controversy. The statue of Oñate was intended as part of a sculpture
walk through history that would memorialize the region's dramatic but
often unrecognized history. When the storm of protest arose, they were
taken by surprise. But should they have been? Had they too easily
accepted a conqueror's version of history in which the daring exploits
of pioneers and colonists are celebrated, and the sins of violence are
avoided or excused?

[Cactus Pete]

Post by Lupe Esquibel
You wipees cant argue with History but Denial will always be a river
in Egypt. el pintada kid
http://community.webtv.net/PintadaKid/THELONGWALK
I COMPLAINED BECAUSE I HAD NO SHOES UNTIL I MET A MAN WHO HAD NO FEET.
EL PINTADA KID ..... LUPE

The 70's, or was it the 80's? must have been a good time for you, to be
so obsessed with song about "Denial will always be a river in Egypt".
You need something to focus your attention on. Something to bring
meaning to your life.

There must be a local church somewhere near where you live that needs
volunteers to help people in need. It could benefit you and the
people you help. At the very least, go out and pick up trash along
roads. Join the Peace Corp! You could go to Mexico and help people
who are truly in need, and you speak the language. You can make a
difference.

[Lupe Esquibel]

Remember Wipees one evil man does not make all the Spanish evil
although im not too happy with my people the Spanish for what they did
to the Native Americans they did bring lots of progress including,
Mining, Irrigation, Ranching, Farming ideas and tools and plants and
vegetables. horses and livestock P.S. im glad you wipees brought up
voluteering because most of my life ive spent helping others and trying
to do at least one good deed a day or more and ive been doing that
forever. In my lifetime ive saved close to a Dozen lives sometimes
risking my own to do it. >>> Last Christmas i spent weeks into
Christmas and for two months after giving toys and food to the needy
kids in the area so helping people has always been part of my life and
theres so many other ways to volunteer and help humanity im glad one of
you wipees brought it up. el pintada kid


http://community.webtv.net/PintadaKid/THELONGWALK
I COMPLAINED BECAUSE I HAD NO SHOES UNTIL I MET A MAN WHO HAD NO FEET.
EL PINTADA KID ..... LUPE

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Post by Lupe Esquibel
Remember Wipees one evil man does not make all the Spanish evil

"One"?

Just "one"?

How many conquistadores and missionaries do you think they sent over
here anyway?

Post by Lupe Esquibel
although im not too happy with my people the Spanish for what they did
to the Native Americans

Well that's mighty 'wht' of you, loopy...

Post by Lupe Esquibel
they did bring lots of progress including,
Mining,Irrigation, Ranching, Farming ideas and tools and plants and
vegetables. horses and livestock

Ever hear of the Anasazi?

Ever been to Chaco Canyon?

Hint - native Americans were quite proficient in developing and
irrigating for large communities before the Spanish came and "civilized"
their ancestors, cabron.

Post by Lupe Esquibel
P.S. im glad you wipees brought up
voluteering because most of my life ive spent helping others and trying
to do at least one good deed a day or more and ive been doing that
forever.

Well you're quit the saintly troll then aren't you?

Post by Lupe Esquibel
In my lifetime ive saved close to a Dozen lives sometimes
risking my own to do it.

These are tales you should tell here then , instead of the same old
'rattlers and lions and bears, oh my' stuff..

Post by Lupe Esquibel
Last Christmas i spent weeks into
Christmas and for two months after giving toys and food to the needy
kids in the area so helping people has always been part of my life and
theres so many other ways to volunteer and help humanity im glad one of
you wipees brought it up. el pintada kid

Somehow you don't seem to have that helpful nature here...

I wonder which one is an act, the angry racist 'wipee' we read in this
group, or the alleged Santa Claus of the center of New Mexico?

[Lupe Esquibel]

Teaching you evil wipees the true History is an Act of Kindness in
itself plus at least the Latino have one voice so we can hear the other
side of the story. el pintada kid


http://community.webtv.net/PintadaKid/THELONGWALK
I COMPLAINED BECAUSE I HAD NO SHOES UNTIL I MET A MAN WHO HAD NO FEET.
EL PINTADA KID ..... LUPE

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Post by Lupe Esquibel
Teaching you evil wipees the true History is an Act of Kindness in
itself

So sorry puta, but the lesson continues:

http://native-way.blogspot.com/2006/08/pueblo-revolt-1680.html

Pueblo Rebellion


Life for the Pueblo Indians during the 1600s was hard. The Spaniards had
settled on their lands and Spanish towns and ranches were built
throughout the Rio Grande Valley. Soldiers and priests were living in
the Pueblo villages. The Spanish priest outlawed traditional Pueblo
ceremonies and forced the Indians to worship the Spanish god. If any
Indian refused, he was beaten, jailed, or killed. The Pueblos knew that
if they tried to fight against Spaniards at the mission, soldiers from
Santa Fe might come and destroy their village.

Strange diseases brought by the settlers from Europe also swept through
the Pueblo towns. The illnesses killed hundreds of people and left many
villages empty. Before Onate and his colonists had come, the Pueblos had
always prepared for dry times by storing extra food for their villages.
When the Spaniards conquered the Pueblos, they forced them to surrender
the stored good as taxes. When dry times came, there was no food and
hundreds of Pueblos died from starvation. The people began to abandon
their villages to get away from diseases, hunger, and the Spaniards.
Some joined their Navajo friends living near Dinétah. Others joined the
Zunis or the Hopis who lived far to the west. Some Pueblos moved onto
the plains to escape the Spaniards. When Onate first entered New Mexico
in 1598, there were over one hundred Pueblo Indian villages in the Rio
Grande valley. By 1680, only forty-three pueblo villages were occupied.

By 1680, many Pueblo chiefs had decided something had to be done about
the Spaniards. The Pueblo way of life was ending.

Post by Lupe Esquibel
plus at least the Latino have one voice so we can hear the other
side of the story. el pintada kid

That's the stupidest thing you have said yet.

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Post by Cactus Pete

Post by Lupe Esquibel
You wipees cant argue with History but Denial will always be a river
in Egypt. el pintada kid
http://community.webtv.net/PintadaKid/THELONGWALK
I COMPLAINED BECAUSE I HAD NO SHOES UNTIL I MET A MAN WHO HAD NO FEET.
EL PINTADA KID ..... LUPE

The 70's, or was it the 80's? must have been a good time for you, to be
so obsessed with song about "Denial will always be a river in Egypt".
You need something to focus your attention on. Something to bring
meaning to your life.

Like maybe a sack of gorditas...

Post by Cactus Pete
There must be a local church somewhere near where you live that needs
volunteers to help people in need. It could benefit you and the
people you help. At the very least, go out and pick up trash along
roads. Join the Peace Corp! You could go to Mexico and help people
who are truly in need, and you speak the language. You can make a
difference.

http://peacecorpsconnect.typepad.com/peacecorpspolyglot/2009/09/new-mexico-peace-corps-association-camps-out-and-cleans-up.html

[GaGa Maggot]

Post by Lupe Esquibel
THE SPANISH HAVE LIVED IN THE AMERICAS OVER 500 YEARS AND THE
OTHER WHTS 200 YEARS. el pintada kid

And today we have them to thank for wiping out
entire populations when they invaded the "new world."
Those they didn't kill outright they killed by
infecting them with their diseases and STDs.
They subjugated the native populations in what
is now the southwest USA by enslaving them and
brutally killing or maiming (cutting off their feet).

[Lupe Esquibel]

The Spanish integrated with the Native Americans and today we have
the Spanish Indians and Spanish Mexicans ALSO the Spanish brought
everything imaginable to the Americas including horse and livestock.
Without the Spanish we wouldnt have gene and roy and hoppy. The
Spanish helped the U.S. win the Revolutionary war and Spanish ports were
Safe Haven for U.S. ships all over the World. Seems like theres a
story we rarely hear about back east where a wht man taking diseased
blankets to the Indians and wiping out entire tribes and at one time
they considered building a monument to this man but the Indians
protested it. Also since the Spanish bred with the Mexicans coming
north wouldnt the Mexicans related to them be Half Wht? The Indians
also? We are all related like it or not in some way to the Spanish and
True Native Americans but Denial Will Always be a River in Egypt for you
wipees short for aswipes. p.s. the other
whts are the ones who taught the Indians how to Scalp.
el pintada kid


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I COMPLAINED BECAUSE I HAD NO SHOES UNTIL I MET A MAN WHO HAD NO FEET.
EL PINTADA KID ..... LUPE

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Post by Lupe Esquibel
The Spanish integrated with the Native Americans and

"Integrated"???

Post by Lupe Esquibel
http://www.houstonculture.org/mexico/muertosorig.html
On his way to one of history's most dramatic confrontations -- the meeting of Hernan Cortés and Moctezuma, and the eventual defeat of the Aztecs -- Cortés left the Cholulans with scores of dead to remember. The Spanish conquistador ambushed and killed 6,000 Indians living in the important cultural center, at the base of the largest pyramid in the world
Cultural Invasion of the Spanish
While wandering in the company of vast processions of Indians across the north, Alvar Núñez Cabeza de Vaca stumbled upon a slave raiding party under the notorious Diego de Alcaraz.(4) As the Indians fled the brutality and indiscriminate killing of the slave raiders, they left a scorched and barren land, unsustainable to further exploration. Cabeza de Vaca told the Spanish governor at Culiacán, "Clearly, to bring all these people to Christianity and subjection to Your Imperial Majesty, they must be won by kindness, the only certain way."
In the good graces of many indigenous people of northern Mexico, Cabeza de Vaca proposed conversion to Catholicism as a solution to escape living in fear. "We ordered them to come down from the mountains fearlessly and peacefully, reinhabit the country and rebuild their houses and, among the latter, they should build one for God with a cross placed over the door... and that, when Christians came among them, they should go to greet them with crosses in their hands..., take them to their houses and feed them, and the Christians would not harm them but be friends." FULL QUOTE
The Indians, not adverse to giving and sharing, often accepted such terms to stave off further violence.
Indigenous Traditions Grew Out of Decimation

[James and LuAnne Smith]

What comes around goes around blame it on-Calif Gov prop8 which turns
Calif common-ist state