Obama's plan to raise U.S. gas prices is succeeding wildly!

Post by Jane Galt
"Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the
levels in Europe." - Obama's Energy Secretary Chu, in 2008.
Europe's gas prices are $8-10 a gallon and U.S. gas prices have risen 158%
since 2008.

Why should the U.S. government keep subsidizing the price of gasoline just
to keep the price to consumers low? If gasoline is expensive in other parts
of the world it means it is not being subsidized there.. If gasoline prices
were allowed to rise to the levels that are found elsewhere in the world it
would force Americans to do what they should have done all along - travel
less, work closer to home and have a mass transit system that really works.
But no, Republicans will always stick with their stupid ideas that somehow
Americans deserve to pay less for things than anyone else. Simpletons,
that's what they are.

private sector's doing 'fine'

2012-10-21 18:39:19 UTC

Why should the U.S. government keep subsidizing the price of gasoline just
to keep the price to consumers low?

They're not, you're a nutcase Demonrat.

Drop dead.

Ken

2012-10-22 18:48:38 UTC

Post by private sector's doing 'fine'

Why should the U.S. government keep subsidizing the price of gasoline just
to keep the price to consumers low?

They're not, you're a nutcase Demonrat.
Drop dead.

No, you drop dead. If for no other reason than being a stupid Republican.

Government Didn't Build My Company - I did!

2012-10-23 19:16:38 UTC

Post by private sector's doing 'fine'

Post by Jane Galt
"Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to
the levels in Europe." - Obama's Energy Secretary Chu, in 2008.
Europe's gas prices are $8-10 a gallon and U.S. gas prices have risen 158%
since 2008.

Why should the U.S. government keep subsidizing the price of gasoline
just to keep the price to consumers low?

They're not, you're a nutcase Demonrat.
Drop dead.

I second that!

Mark Hill

2012-10-24 20:59:00 UTC

While the Obama White House *ignored the frantic emails* from our Libyan
Embassy WHILE THEY WERE UNDER ATTACK, things were getting bad, very,
very bad...

http://www.examiner.com/article/lebanese-report-us-ambassador-raped-before-murdered

The Lebanese news organization Tayyar.org is reporting that the murdered
American ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens, was raped prior to
his killing September 11, 2012.

Tayyar.com also reported via Google translation from the original
Arabic, Ambassador Stevens:

“
"...was killed and representation of his body in a manner similar to
what happened with Gaddafi, such as murder."

According to the BBC, when the former Libyan strongman Colonel Moammar
Gaddafi was initially captured:

“
"Still images from an analysis of amateur video footage taken in the
moments after Col Gaddafi's capture appear to show him being sodomised
with a pole or knife."

The Washington Times has posted a video clip (left) reportedly
originating from the Libyan Free Press confirming the sodomization of
Ambassador Stevens prior to his murder.

As translated by The Washington Times, the Libyan reporter stated:

“
"Libya - USA Ambassador in Bengazi sodomized and killed by his own
al-Qaeda puppets."

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1922193626001/was-there-a-live-feed-of-the-terrorist-attack-in-benghazi-/

Was there a live feed of the terrorist attack in Benghazi?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/uk-usa-benghazi-emails-idUKBRE89N02E20121024

Emails: White House told of militant claim two hours after Libya attack

(Reuters) - Officials at the White House and State Department were
advised two hours after attackers assaulted the U.S. diplomatic mission
in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 that an Islamic militant group had
claimed credit for the attack, official emails show.

The emails, obtained by Reuters from government sources not connected
with U.S. spy agencies or the State Department and who requested
anonymity, specifically mention that the Libyan group called Ansar
al-Sharia had asserted responsibility for the attacks.

The brief emails also show how U.S. diplomats described the attack, even
as it was still under way, to Washington.

U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were
killed in the Benghazi assault, which President Barack Obama and other
U.S. officials ultimately acknowledged was a "terrorist" attack carried
out by militants with suspected links to al Qaeda affiliates or
sympathizers.

Administration spokesmen, including White House spokesman Jay Carney,
citing an unclassified assessment prepared by the CIA, maintained for
days that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an
anti-Muslim film.

Jane Galt

2012-10-23 18:56:42 UTC

NOT TRUE. It means they tax it to death and won't allow production, like
Obama is doing here!

Post by Ken
If gasoline prices
were allowed to rise to the levels that are found elsewhere in the world it
would force Americans to do what they should have done all along - travel
less,

Live like North Korea, you Marxist idiot!

Mark Hill

2012-10-23 19:05:32 UTC

If gasoline prices were allowed to rise to the levels that are found elsewhere in the world it
would force Americans to do what they should have done all along - travel
less, work closer to home and have a mass transit system that really works.

About how quickly do you think that would happen, a year, five, ten, twenty?

What would the economic health of America be until that fictional date?

DOA?

Jane Galt

2012-10-23 19:18:45 UTC

If gasoline prices were allowed to rise to the levels that are found
elsewhere in the world it would force Americans to do what they should
have done all along - travel less, work closer to home and have a mass
transit system that really works.

About how quickly do you think that would happen, a year, five, ten, twenty?
What would the economic health of America be until that fictional date?
DOA?

Not only that, but in Denver they spent BILLIONS on light rail, claiming it
would take car traffic off the highways. But less than 1% use it! It's
redistribution of wealth from the producers to the leeches. It rides around
empty most of the time!

People want their independence and FREEDOM!

Socialism is slavery!

Kirby Grant

2012-10-23 20:15:27 UTC

Post by Jane Galt

If gasoline prices were allowed to rise to the levels that are found
elsewhere in the world it would force Americans to do what they should
have done all along - travel less, work closer to home and have a mass
transit system that really works.

About how quickly do you think that would happen, a year, five, ten, twenty?
What would the economic health of America be until that fictional date?
DOA?

Not only that, but in Denver they spent BILLIONS on light rail, claiming it
would take car traffic off the highways. But less than 1% use it! It's
redistribution of wealth from the producers to the leeches. It rides around
empty most of the time!
People want their independence and FREEDOM!
Socialism is slavery!

If that is true then why do you insist on subsidized gas prices. Only
socialist nations subsidize prices of anything. Take away the subsidies and
we would then have to deal with the utter reality of what things really
cost. So rail against socialism all you want, but in the end you couldn't
live without socialism because you like the benefits it provides.

Mark Hill

2012-10-24 04:24:30 UTC

Post by Kirby Grant

Post by Jane Galt

If gasoline prices were allowed to rise to the levels that are found
elsewhere in the world it would force Americans to do what they should
have done all along - travel less, work closer to home and have a mass
transit system that really works.

About how quickly do you think that would happen, a year, five, ten, twenty?
What would the economic health of America be until that fictional date?
DOA?

Not only that, but in Denver they spent BILLIONS on light rail, claiming it
would take car traffic off the highways. But less than 1% use it! It's
redistribution of wealth from the producers to the leeches. It rides around
empty most of the time!
People want their independence and FREEDOM!
Socialism is slavery!

If that is true then why do you insist on subsidized gas prices.

Gas prices are not subsidized, we pay the market price for oil.

Post by Kirby Grant
Only socialist nations subsidize prices of anything.

That's a lie.

Nations of all types subsidize commodities.

Post by Kirby Grant
Take away the subsidies and we would then have to deal with the utter reality of what things really
cost.

The only subsidy in the US it to production, not pricing.

The product is a fungible global commodity and tracks to cartel pricing
controlled by OPEC nations - the largest producer cartel.

Post by Kirby Grant
So rail against socialism all you want, but in the end you couldn't
live without socialism because you like the benefits it provides.

You are a completely naive and misinformed person.

Kirby Grant

2012-10-23 20:13:33 UTC

If gasoline prices were allowed to rise to the levels that are found
elsewhere in the world it
would force Americans to do what they should have done all along - travel
less, work closer to home and have a mass transit system that really works.

About how quickly do you think that would happen, a year, five, ten, twenty?
What would the economic health of America be until that fictional date?
DOA?

Does this mean you like communism only when it does things that you are in
favor of? Because that is exactly how subsidized gas prices work. If it were
true free market enterprise then we would be paying the same amount for
gasoline as the rest of the world. However, because it doesn't operate as
free enterprise we end up paying less than everyone else. But that comes at
a price of a burgeoning national debt where the cost of keeping gas prices
low is really hidden behind a whole bunch of other factors.

The point is, we should be paying the same as the rest of the world so that
everyone is forced to deal with reality. If it is too expensive for someone
to commute 50 miles to work every day then either they'll get a job closer
to home or else they'll live closer to where their job is located. If it is
too expensive to drive hundreds of miles for vacation then people will find
that some type of mass transit system will better serve our needs
economically. The problem is that people like to keep living in their
fantasy world with subsidized gas prices and they will cling to that as a
measuring stick for the economy in general - they'll never accept that it is
their own fault that the economy is bad because they prefer to act like
spoiled brats and insist that they have the rights to pay less for things
than elsewhere in the world while also making more than people elsewhere in
the world.

Mark Hill

2012-10-24 04:21:26 UTC

Post by Kirby Grant